Hrc, tnx, bum probao tako... A probat cu i na sestrin 5800, pa ak bu tam šljakalo otet cu joj mob :-)
Jedno opčenito pitanje, jel bi trebao GPS normalno funkcionirat bez da je podržan internetom,
jer, u roamingu je to jako skupo...
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Hrc, tnx, bum probao tako... A probat cu i na sestrin 5800, pa ak bu tam šljakalo otet cu joj mob :-)
Jedno opčenito pitanje, jel bi trebao GPS normalno funkcionirat bez da je podržan internetom,
jer, u roamingu je to jako skupo...
Na Nokia 5800 radi kak vurica, ja ga imam, a instalacija Sygica je djecja igra.. Meni je na Nokia 5800 automatski napravio license.txt sa predznakom minus ( - )! Zbog toga, kak sam i prije napisao, ako ti ne napravi automatski license.txt, napravi ga rucno i stavi ga u odredjeni folder zajedno sa ***.mlm fileom.
GPS se ne spaja na internet, nego na satelite, pa se zbog toga nemoras bojati za troskove.
U [Tutorial] Sygic Mobile Maps 10 v.8.06 (S60 3rd) su postavljeni najnoviji linkovi na policijske kamere.
A-GPS i GPS ne rade baš na isti način... Kad neka aplikacija zatraži pristup GPS modulu, prvo se aktivira A-GPS koji s interneta povlači informacije o najbližim satelitima. Kad ih dobije, isključuje se i onda nastupa GPS koji se spaja na te satelite koje mu je "servirao" A-GPS. Nije u pitanju neki veliki promet, najviše 10 kB, a to je kod svih operatera jedna obračunska jedinica i plaća se od 1 lipe do najviše 50 lipa (ne računam roaming).
Potpis.
Sygic od BiH nema ni B, samo glavne ceste i bok.
Čak ni čvorište na istarski ipsilon kod Vodnjana nema ucrtano, a ono je tamo puno prije od datuma izlaska Navteq karti koje sam koristio.
S druge strane, Garmin i AR 2.3 jako dobro pokriva BiH i sporedne ulice (nisam ih istraživao, samo sam pratio jesu li ucrtane paralelno kako prolazim raskrižja). Idealna kombinacija bi mi bila Sygic GUI i AR :) A i Garmin mi osjetno brže pojede bateriju kod navigiranja usprkos ubijenom background procesu.
Sorry! Nisam skuzio da si pitao ako je GPS podrzan internetom. Mislio sam samo na GPS. domy_os ti je odgovorio o troskovima koji su zanemarivi kod vlastitog operetera, jedino je pitanje roaminga koliko kosta.
Ovo ti pise u uputama moba:
Ovdje imas temu: Trik za brži GPS.= Citat =:
Potpomognuti GPS (A-GPS)
Vaš uređaj podržava i potpomognuti GPS (A-GPS).
GPS (A-GPS) je usluga mreže.
Potpomognuti globalni sustav pozicioniranja (A-GPS) koristi se za dobivanje pomoćnih podataka putem paketne podatkovne veze, čime se olakšava izračunavanje koordinata vaše trenutne lokacije dok uređaj prima signale sa satelita.
Kada aktivirate A-GPS, putem mobilne mreže vaš uređaj prima korisne podatke o satelitu s pomoćnog podatkovnog poslužitelja. Pomoću podataka vaš uređaj može brže dobiti GPS položaj.
Vaš je uređaj unaprijed konfiguriran za korištenje usluge Nokia A-GPS, ako nisu dostupne A-GPS postavke specifične za davatelja usluge. Pomoćni podaci učitavaju se s poslužitelja usluge Nokia A-GPS samo prema potrebi.
Da biste onemogućili A-GPS uslugu, odaberite Izbornik > Programi > Lokacija i Opcije > Postavke određivanja položaja > Načini određivanja položaja > GPS potpomognut Internetom > Isključi.
U uređaju morate imati određenu internetsku pristupnu točku da biste učitavali pomoćne podatke iz usluge Nokia A-GPS putem paketnog prijenosa podataka. Pristupna točka za A-GPS može biti definirana u postavkama pozicioniranja. Pristupna točka za bežični LAN (WLAN) ne može se koristiti za ovu uslugu. Može se koristiti samo internetska pristupna točka s paketnim prijenosom podataka. Kada prvi put koristite GPS, uređaj će vas pitati za internetsku pristupnu točku.
Imas ovdje jedan trik u postu 177: TIP: Kako brze dobiti signal satelita bez upotrebe A-GPS-a?
Po mojem, najbolji trik je: u inozemstvu sim karticu staviti u drugi mob i ne moras se bojati za troskove!!! :cry:
Budem i ja probao taj trik za brži GPS-om jer mi se Sygic danas u Lici spajao nekih pola sata na satelite iako je A-GPS bio uključen!
tnx Hrc!
a kak cu upalit mob ak izvadim sim karticu? Mislio si da stavim neku prepaid od
domaceg operatera? (mislim na domaceg kad vec jesam u stranoj zemlji :-)
Jedno je sigurno, necu imat broj od pretplate nego cu si stavit prepaid, imam losa
iskustva s roamingom :-)
Prepaid je dobra opcija. Prepaid sa mobom mozes naci vec od 25 €.
Ma uzeo bi samo broj pa ubacim u svoj mob :-) samo kad bi znao
objasnit kaj ocu, da mi treba i internet, a sve na španjolskom :-)
Ima li netko instaliran Sygic 10 na Nokiji 6120 classic i kako se Sygic ponaša na tom mobu?
Nova verzija Sygic Mobile Maps 10 v8.14
Izašla je nova verzija Sygic Mobile Maps 10 v8.14. Link je dodan u [Tutorial] Sygic Mobile Maps 10 (S60 3rd)
Za one koji već imaju instaliranu stariju verziju:
Prije instalacije napraviti backup, ako nešto krene naopako!
Prilikom instalacije nove verzije, potrebno je prvo deinstalirati staru verziju! Foldere Drive i Res zamijeniti sa novima, a folder Maps sa kartama ostaviti!
Izašle su nove TeleAtlas karte od 03-2010. Linkovi pojedinačnih zemalja su dodani u [Tutorial] Sygic Mobile Maps 10 (S60 3rd) .
najnovija TeleAtlas mapa Evrope (21.07.2010)
link:
http://www.freshwap.net/applications...1.07.2010.html
pozdrav
u pravu si, skinuo sam i mape su od 03-2010
Sygic NAVTEQ EUROPE mape 2010.7:
http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/y...enshot0001.jpg
http://rapidshare.com/files/415132181/alb.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415132186/and.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415132222/aut.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415133508/bel.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415134368/bgr.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415134876/bih.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415134891/blr.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415134935/che.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415152555/cze.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415153873/deu.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415160476/dnk.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415160974/esp.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415165116/est.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415165422/fin.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415167947/fra.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415174898/gbr.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415177766/gib.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415177789/grc.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415178722/hrv.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415178958/hun.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415179484/imn.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415179502/irl.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415179778/isl.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415179947/ita.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415183724/lie.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415183743/ltu.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415183928/lux.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415183982/lva.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415184195/mco.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415184210/mda.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415184215/mkd.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415184238/mlt.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415184259/mne.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415184277/nld.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415185281/nor.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415186382/pol.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415188443/prt.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415189479/rou.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415189678/smr.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415189682/srb.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415189706/svk.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415190053/svn.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415190330/swe.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415192026/tur.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415193183/ukr.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415194143/vat.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/415194170/wcl.rar
SMM10 Europe Navteq.mlm file:= Citat =:
Albania (ALB), Andorra (AND), Austria (AUT), Belgium (BEL), Bulgaria (BGR), Bosnia and Herzegovina (BIH), Belarus (BLR), Switzerland (CHE), Czech Republic (CZE), Germany (DEU ), Denmark (DNK), Spain (ESP), Estonia (EST), Finland (FIN), France (FRA), Great Britain and Northern Ireland (GBR), Gibraltar (GIB), Greece (GRC), Croatia (HRV), Hungary (HUN), Isle of Man (IMN), Ireland (IRL), Iceland (ISL), Italy (ITA), Liechtenstein (LIE), Lithuania (LTU), Luxembourg (LUX), Latvia (LVA), Monaco (MCO) , Moldova (MDA), Macedonia (MKD), Malta (MLT), Montenegro (MNE), Netherlands (NLD), Norway (NOR), Poland (POL), Portugal (PRT), Romania (ROU), San Marino ( SMR), Serbia (SRB), Slovakia (SVK), Slovenia (SVN), Sweden (SWE), Turkey (TUR), Ukraine (UKR), Vatican (VAT), Base map of the world (WCL).
= Citat =:
[PRODUCT:Drive10 Europe]
name=Drive10 Europe
tts=no
sdk=no
truckAttr=no
premiumPOI=no
exPostals=no
speedcam=SCDB:EXTEUR:2012.08,SCDB:ISL:2012.08,SCDB :IMN:2012.08
maps=NT:EXTEUR:2010.07
pozdrav,
Mirrors:
Albania (ALB):
http://www.multiupload.com/IEDQG0PGW0
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3B11ORDS
http://uploading.com/files/544be55a/alb.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415132181/alb.rar
http://uploading.com/files/e2b57dca/alb.rar/
Andorra (AND):
http://www.multiupload.com/Z75R8PXCIB
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FC9M34JF
http://uploading.com/files/d1448659/and.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415132186/and.rar
http://uploading.com/files/fm19d3m3/and.rar/
Austria (AUT):
http://www.multiupload.com/9G9W49RTDV
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=X8M478H0
http://uploading.com/files/e89cc5a2/aut.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415132222/aut.rar
http://uploading.com/files/2bm8c6m4/aut.rar/
Belgium (BEL):
http://www.multiupload.com/H7697F9LUE
http://uploading.com/files/bcbb82b6/bel.rar/
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2BIO3JZI
http://rapidshare.com/files/415133508/bel.rar
http://uploading.com/files/4ec6m871/bel.rar/
Bulgaria (BGR):
http://www.multiupload.com/Q38AJTJFOW
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QSSIR8FY
http://uploading.com/files/2mc29474/bgr.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415134368/bgr.rar
http://uploading.com/files/75ab2e11/bgr.rar/
Bosnia and Herzegovina (BIH):
http://www.multiupload.com/US26KVWDPK
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=G8HMMUQ8
http://uploading.com/files/dd732mm8/bih.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415134876/bih.rar
http://uploading.com/files/77465bd3/bih.rar/
Belarus (BLR):
http://www.multiupload.com/54S6970323
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RY3FXQAK
http://uploading.com/files/b77e62f3/blr.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415134891/blr.rar
http://uploading.com/files/a23c57f8/blr.rar/
Switzerland (CHE):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UMMPD6NI
http://uploading.com/files/afa3988m/che.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415134935/che.rar
http://uploading.com/files/4b4c2e44/che.rar/
Czech Republic (CZE):
http://www.multiupload.com/HJ6R0QGPXH
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QC1A1RGZ
http://uploading.com/files/ace1e9c2/cze.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415152555/cze.rar
http://uploading.com/files/4dd479d1/cze.rar/
Germany (DEU):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TD5B5VM6
http://uploading.com/files/f481293d/deu.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415153873/deu.rar
http://uploading.com/files/b9d7m2a8/deu.rar/
Denmark (DNK):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Y4CNYL27
http://uploading.com/files/2a25235m/dnk.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415160476/dnk.rar
http://uploading.com/files/2m748f57/dnk.rar/
Spain (ESP):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZNZ4A055
http://uploading.com/files/31ed56da/esp.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415160974/esp.rar
http://uploading.com/files/ef856m69/esp.rar/
Estonia (EST):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6TRPI6HS
http://uploading.com/files/711m6m1f/est.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415165116/est.rar
http://uploading.com/files/e524mf3a/est.rar/
Finland (FIN):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=49KBT52C
http://uploading.com/files/7442d2b9/fin.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415165422/fin.rar
http://uploading.com/files/aa2b8681/fin.rar/
France (FRA):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1G1P3LUH
http://uploading.com/files/8e57eb59/fra.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415167947/fra.rar
http://uploading.com/files/629383ea/fra.rar/
Great Britain and Northern Ireland (GBR):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KLFSTWWA
http://uploading.com/files/8596m533/gbr.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415174898/gbr.rar
http://uploading.com/files/c3412249/gbr.rar/
Gibraltar (GIB):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MQTUDB29
http://uploading.com/files/b894411f/gib.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415177766/gib.rar
http://uploading.com/files/f87148e5/gib.rar/
Greece (GRC):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=04E2YAXP
http://uploading.com/files/5m9bb394/grc.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415177789/grc.rar
http://uploading.com/files/1c4ec861/grc.rar/
Croatia (HRV):
http://rapidshare.com/files/415178722/hrv.rar
http://uploading.com/files/2eb5bmc2/hrv.rar/
Hungary (HUN):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SYUYZHU2
http://rapidshare.com/files/415178958/hun.rar
http://uploading.com/files/m1mef8fd/hun.rar/
Isle of Man (IMN):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CQER62KO
http://rapidshare.com/files/415179484/imn.rar
http://uploading.com/files/bfeed69e/imn.rar/
Ireland (IRL):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=56WRPNKR
http://uploading.com/files/2e9cdm8e/irl.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415179502/irl.rar
http://uploading.com/files/c9a1389m/irl.rar/
Iceland (ISL):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=S3LPHJJX
http://rapidshare.com/files/415179778/isl.rar
http://uploading.com/files/fm149154/isl.rar/
Italy (ITA):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=V0CPNFZT
http://uploading.com/files/af3fc25m/ita.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415179947/ita.rar
http://uploading.com/files/8e1cd4c5/ita.rar/
Liechtenstein (LIE):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=H7L7D1UE
http://uploading.com/files/fm9f24ca/lie.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415183724/lie.rar
http://uploading.com/files/7b1e8bf8/lie.rar/
Lithuania (LTU):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=53W71HQX
http://uploading.com/files/e76b3f6a/ltu.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415183743/ltu.rar
http://uploading.com/files/267cccm8/ltu.rar/
Luxembourg (LUX):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HO4B9JEE
http://uploading.com/files/84aef7dm/lux.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415183928/lux.rar
http://uploading.com/files/7b88d2c3/lux.rar/
Latvia (LVA):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YYC5N724
http://uploading.com/files/ma3b7357/lva.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415183982/lva.rar
http://uploading.com/files/e5bb6f45/lva.rar/
Monaco (MCO) :
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VBCWXA7V
http://uploading.com/files/bcf8mc5a/mco.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415184195/mco.rar
http://uploading.com/files/98bcacbf/mco.rar/
Moldova (MDA):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=N1UMFYQF
http://uploading.com/files/a8346ecf/mda.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415184210/mda.rar
http://uploading.com/files/d161d854/mda.rar/
Macedonia (MKD):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HRNWUVTH
http://uploading.com/files/mmmddcea/mkd.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415184215/mkd.rar
http://uploading.com/files/67881b62/mkd.rar/
Malta (MLT):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5JIEDJGQ
http://uploading.com/files/fc73342c/mlt.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415184238/mlt.rar
http://uploading.com/files/33mfcf8c/mlt.rar/
Montenegro (MNE):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=P3C1PN4W
http://uploading.com/files/aa1m3dc5/mne.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415184259/mne.rar
http://uploading.com/files/79f6597b/mne.rar/
Netherlands (NLD):
http://www.multiupload.com/FPY3MCMV9K
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VACBHSWS
http://uploading.com/files/7c2275fb/nld.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415184277/nld.rar
http://uploading.com/files/dd7m612c/nld.rar/
Norway (NOR):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JHRGGVXP
http://uploading.com/files/194dffd5/nor.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415185281/nor.rar
http://uploading.com/files/779e9e42/nor.rar/
Poland (POL):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CG4JI5JN
http://uploading.com/files/d6c1cb7a/pol.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415186382/pol.rar
http://uploading.com/files/abb66a24/pol.rar/
Portugal (PRT):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TBVG7561
http://uploading.com/files/1f2ee36e/prt.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415188443/prt.rar
http://uploading.com/files/m1cc6a1m/prt.rar/
Romania (ROU):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=94HQCCJK
http://uploading.com/files/444daeff/rou.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415189479/rou.rar
http://uploading.com/files/56a65af5/rou.rar/
San Marino (SMR):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QEYTK6CH
http://uploading.com/files/6447a2f9/smr.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415189678/smr.rar
http://uploading.com/files/dm61e63e/smr.rar/
Serbia (SRB):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=B52Z8M0V
http://uploading.com/files/49daf65b/srb.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415189682/srb.rar
http://uploading.com/files/2526ec45/srb.rar/
Slovakia (SVK):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=M35COEV8
http://uploading.com/files/b8d2e6m2/svk.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415189706/svk.rar
http://uploading.com/files/be8fec81/svk.rar/
Slovenia (SVN):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=X5L2X37K
http://uploading.com/files/d1f2bef2/svn.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415190053/svn.rar
http://uploading.com/files/ccc8m87m/svn.rar/
Sweden (SWE):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LY3NHUFH
http://uploading.com/files/3ma787d4/swe.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415190330/swe.rar
http://uploading.com/files/87ca82c7/swe.rar/
Turkey (TUR):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=498P2YA0
http://uploading.com/files/3e2594eb/tur.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415192026/tur.rar
http://uploading.com/files/d59ec6f9/tur.rar/
Ukraine (UKR):
http://uploading.com/files/196944de/ukr.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415193183/ukr.rar
http://uploading.com/files/72ce4daa/ukr.rar/
Vatican (VAT):
http://uploading.com/files/35d8cdeb/vat.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415194143/vat.rar
http://uploading.com/files/8d7b6m32/vat.rar/
Base map of the world (WCL):
http://uploading.com/files/4m1me2ca/wcl.rar/
http://rapidshare.com/files/415194170/wcl.rar
http://uploading.com/files/7834de47/wcl.rar/
pozdrav,
NOVO:
Linkovi na nove NavTeq karte od 07-2010 su dodani u Tutorial-Sygic-Mobile-Maps-10.
Naletio sam na problem sa zadnjom verzijom Sygic-a (Sygic Mobile Maps 10 v8.14). Imam Nokiu E71, firmware 500.21.009, hacked. Zadnjih dana pokusavam instalirati Sygic (prvo verziju 7), ali ne prolazi. Ili pukne kod instalacije, ili je corrupted file. Nakon toga sam pokusao za zadnjom verzijom i ona se instalirala uspjesno. Skinuo sam Navteq karte, jer sam procitao da su detaljnije od Teleatlasovih, i to je u redu, navigacija se starta, sve naizgled funkcionira u redu, mogu ici po izborniku, mjenjati postavke, dok ne odaberem opciju "Karta". Prikaze mi neki polozaj na karti i kad krenem pomicat kartu u bilo kojem smjeru, izbaci mi "Unexpected error" i aplikacija se ubije. Ista stvar se dogodi kada odaberem opciju "GPS". Kada zelim iscitati koordinate, odaberem "GPS" i dobijem "Unexpected error". Osim kod te dvije stvari, za sada nisam primjetio da se aplikacija rusi. Isprobao sam one opcije sa mjenjanjem postavki vodica i POI-a, iako nisu u izborniku koji je naveden, nasao sam ih, ali ista stvar. Probao sam sa i sa verzijom prije, takodjer se rusi na istom mjestu. Jos cu napomenuti kad radim pretrazivanje karte, isto se dogodi "Unexpected error", ali vjerujem da je to povezano sa "browseanjem" karte. Ima li tko slicnih problema i ako da, kako ih je rijesio?
Aplikaciju sam uzeo sa ovog foruma, pratio sam tutorijale, mlm sam morao prepraviti jer sam skinuo navteq karte 2010.07, pa sam samo taj broj promjenio kod definiranja karte. Inace, file je isto sa ovog foruma. Deinstalaciju sam probao, formatiranje ne dolazi u obzir jer se radi o 8gb kartici sa dosta podataka i nemam volje prebacivati sve podatke, formatirati, pa vracati sve natrag samo zbog toga. Kao sto sam rekao, aplikacija radi, cak mi tocno pokaze moju lokaciju kad gps napravi lock, ali kad idem browsat mapu, srusi se. Na prvu bi rekao da nesto ne stima sa mapom, ali mi nije jasno zasto se to isto dogodi kad idem procitat koordinate.
Dobro, ako tebi nije u cilju da ti se pomogne, nije ni nama. Nemoj formatirati karticu i gledaj taj error i dalje.
Iako ne mora pomoći, osobno bih napravio to što je rekao hrc50, čisto da opciju isključim s to do popisa...